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I like this Henry Payne cartoon because it is a reminder that each party has its left wing and its right wing keeping it aloft. Libertarians and others in the United States are dissatisfied with the current two-party system. But the LP will never get off the ground with the narrow orthodoxy it currently espouses. I sometimes wish for system of proportional representation, with a smörgåsbord of political parties. Of course, to some degree we already have that, since the two viable parties are themselves coalitions of narrow interests. And it is healthy to keep in mind that those interests will jump party if it serves their interests - most voters care for their pet issues much more than loyalty to a particular party, especially if they do not see that the party is loyal to them.
Any thoughts on the future of the Democratic Party without Joe Lieberman? What level of loyalty will he have to the DNC if he is elected this fall as an independent? What is his future if he does not win the election?
10:20 Update: Ironically, McQ is also discussing libertarian orthodoxy today.
As with most purges, the attempt isn't to make the tent bigger, but instead smaller. Any indication of impurity is grounds for ouster, even though, as you'll see, a claim of "tolerance" will be made at a later point. In reality, those who possess "the truth" have little patience or tolerance with others who don't toe their line.
I would agree with McQ completely, if I didn't follow his link to this article and actually read what it says. But I did, and Mona does have a point, which is that calling oneself "libertarian" does not make it so. I mean, I guess xrlq is free to call himself neolibertarian, but from what I have seen of him, he is a small-government Republican. His calling himself otherwise doesn't change my judgment. The same for Noam Chomsky, who is a socialist... not a "socialist libertarian".
Unfortunately, Mona is one of the most divisive regulars at QandO, and she probably couldn't call the sky blue without many of the regular commenters jumping her case - and they are true to form today.
It reminds me a little bit of an old friend who was a member of the Gay Republicans. Most Republicans felt that he wasn't really a Republican, since he was openly gay and atheist. But the fact is, there are two simple GOP litmus tests; one formal and one informal but no less real. He passes the formal test - he was in fact a Republican, as evidenced by his voter registration card. He would not, however, pass the informal test of getting support from other Republicans if he ran for office. He was not a real Republican in that sense.
The libertarians are such a politically disorganized group that we do not have any effective litmus test, though we have some strong indicator issues.
Is Mona wrong to ask the questions;
1. Should any of these be ostracized and shunned from the libertarian ranks?
2. On the basis of what litmus test(s)?
How ironic that she should be ostracized for even asking. My answer is that there are some self-identified libertarians who should be called out. Maybe not ostracized from discourse, but I certainly won't claim them all as my ideological brethren. And daring to ask questions is not my litmus test.
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Tracked on August 14, 2006 3:47 PM
I love the smoking ban as a litmus test for libertarians socially, especially for someone who loathes smelling cigarettes. But what would be a good litmus test for libertarians fiscally, other than, of course, someone who reads The Economist (Ooh! Look at me!)?
Vouchers? Public libraries? Public Roads?
Posted by: Rammage
at August 14, 2006 11:10 AM
Concerning the LP. One of my main critisms of the group is the lack of any well seasoned polticians. If they conctrated on actually winning an election (even a mayorship) they would more likely have more influence then just a statistical variance.
Posted by: isiah of buffalo at August 15, 2006 12:29 AM
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